Lizabeth Scott is dead

Longer and better obit at the NYT:

[quote]She had the goods: the luminous eyes and moist lips that belied a heart of stone, the slinky figure, the sculptured cheekbones, the cascading hair and husky voice suitable for torch songs or seductive close-ups.

Wasn't it Lizbeth?

And Maggie the Cat is alive... ALIVE!!!

So good in Strange Love of Martha Ivers.

This is where the witty Luise Rainer remark should go.

The original tough glamour dyke of the golden age.

Proto-dyke.

Ur-dyke!

Lizbeth, Jack Palance, and Nick Adams were Ukranians from Northeast Pennsylvania.

So young, so very ... Actually, that bitch was OLD!

RIP, Golden Age Dyke!

Loved her in Elvis's Loving You when I was kid, apart from Elvis I was fascinated by this slinky older (even then) woman with that hair and voice.

Desert Fury from 1947 is a treat, a lurid Technicolor sort of western set in the Arizona desert, with Liz as the wayward daughter of Mary Astor who runs a casino roadhouse - they come across as two bickering lesbians. Add in hot young Burt Lancaster and odd duo John Hodiak with devoted companion Wendall Corey - and the stage is set for some smouldering action, its a noir in vivid day-glo colours.

So young.

So, so young.

r12, I LOVE Desert Fury. It is probably the gayest movie from that era

I was rather shocked it took so long for this story to be released. And the lack of interest here is interesting.

She may have been developed as a derivative come-lately after Bacall, but she was quite good in THE STRANGE LOVE OF MARTHA IVERS.

R9, I never put that together. Thanks.

She was an odd looker, and boy did she hang on to "that look." Like to her dying day.

Part one of an eight-part interview from 1996:

It was, R2. I'm now a potter upstate New York, but my husband is still with Ticketron.

One of the last of the Golden Age of Hollywood.

RIP, Lizabeth.

Wss she ever linked to a Hollywood woman?

Liz in 2007.

They paired her with Elvis because Hal Wallis knew E needed a grown up to guide him through.

They did the same with Joan Jett in that movie she made, surrounded her with experienced actors.

Morning bump

R21: OMG...that's Madonna, in 3-2-1...

My first lesbian role model, a gift of my parents...

RIP.

So what exactly was up with her personal life? Did she truly live a spinster for half her life, or are there some girlfriends hidden in her closet?

She died a WEEK ago, and it was only announced now??!? WTF?

The interviews in R17's link are pretty interesting, especially Part 3 where she talks about her "social" life and why she had no romances -- basically, she claims she was too busy with work.

She mentions that Joan Crawford was very nice to her; Barbara Stanwyck was a bit of a phony; Patricia Neal was her best friend.

[quote]she talks about her "social" life and why she had no romances -- basically, she claims she was too busy with work

She didn't exactly have a busy schedule after film noir declined, so nice try there Liz.

[quote]She mentions that Joan Crawford was very nice to he

I'll bet she was.

Hello, Elizabeth.

It's LizBETH.

Hello, LIZbeth.

No, It's LizBETH

Isn't that what I said?

No, you said LIZbeth. It's LizBETH.

Lizabeth for RC Cola: "RC tastes best!"

My parents were given some book of Hollywood glamour photos as a gift. They couldn't have been less interested. I loved it, of course.

This picture of Lizabeth (a BW still from "Desert Fury") was in the book. I thought she was incredibly beautiful.

Olivia de Havilland, gorgeously gowned and groomed, sits in Paris, smirking.

Kirk Douglas in his autobio also talks about what a phoney Stanwyck was. Not that anybody should take what Douglas says as the gospel truth. He was another one.

Still considering how great I think she was it is disappointing to have it confirmed by Scott.

I forget the title, but there is a film noir where Ray Burr plays a man who is obsessed with Lizabeth. Talk about a queer romance!

Did any of her obit pieces mention the black book incident? It impacted very heavily on her career, did it not? Or maybe that would be considered bad taste to mention.

I had her. Just sayin'

I would be interested to know from where she acquired the funds to live such a long life in comfort.

She remained in her lovely home and most certainly required care-givers. Where did the money come from?

R27, part 3 of that Youtube interview was a little painful to watch. You can tell she is made incredibly uncomfortable having to talk about her personal life. The interviewer is very annoying.

I do find her account of her career and her personal outlook to be a little too rosy to be believed. It doesn't seem quite genuine.

The interview seems to have been conducted at Janet Leigh's house, and the maker/one of the makers knew Janet Leigh. The maker says Lizabeth was definitely a lesbian:

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[quote]You do realize that this is our interview, and that it's raw footage? That at most, two or three minutes would have been used in the production if it had been green lighted by Lifetime TV after we produced Janet Leigh's Intimate Portrait in 1996? And that this interview was shot in Janet's bedroom? She was like an adopted aunt to me. My grandfather was Tony's drama coach at Universal in the early 50s...

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[quote]Gee I don't know! But yes, she is definitely Lesbian. She was very good friends with Roddy McDowall- and the Free Thinkers of "Old Hollywood". Have you seen her in the footage at Roddy's Malibu house in 1965? She's only in one of the uploads very briefly, but I think with Tony Franciosa and Hayley Mills and Phyllis Newman.

R37, I read that she invested her movie earnings wisely early on, like Garbo. Garbo invested in real estate. Maybe she did too.

But she didn't have a very long career. How much money could she possibly have amassed?

Are we not sure there was a wealthy female partner in this story somewhere?

The Los Angeles Times quoted a longtime friend, Mary Goodstein, as saying Scott died of congestive heart failure.

Mary Goodstein.

She did "smoldering" very well.

There is much talk of an oil man who died and left her funds, although the will was contested by his family.

I think she lost, but perhaps there was some sort of settlement?

The RC Cola pic in R40's link is the oddest pic I've ever seen of her. It looks nothing like her.

I have that ad hanging on the wall in my dining room. Just sayin is all.

Model Cara Delevingne looks so much like her:

R31, Uh. Yeah. Beautiful. If you like your women the castrating kind.

You dykes are forgetting about me. Or willfully ignoring.

She was lovely. What an exceptional voice and swagger.

I hope someone will come forward and tell the true story of her life.

Seeing gays go to the grave still in the closet is a punch to the gut.

Dead and cremated in complete secrecy.

Same as Shirley Temple and Elizabeth Montgomery, r50

[quote]She mentions that Joan Crawford was very nice to her; Barbara Stanwyck was a bit of a phony; Patricia Neal was her best friend.

I didn't hear this in the interview R17 linked, R27. Only the Patricia Neal bit. Is it from somewhere else?

r52 you're going to have to watch all the clips. The story is there. Joan saw Scotty in a film and sent her a note.

So many interesting tidbits in this interview. For instance Scotty talks about the fact that it was Charles Feldman the uber agent who brought Scotty to Hollywood. That guy really had a firm grip on Old Hollywood.

Somebody has got to write his bio.

Stanwyck was anything but a phony. She didn't owe mealy-mouthed upstart starlet Liz a damn thing but her ass to kiss. I can't even believe she was considered to be a threat to Lauren Bacall either...

By phony, Scott and Kirk Douglas meant Stanywck was a closeted lesbian. Over the past few years people like Robert Wagner have tried to in her, but Stanwyck was bisexual, and exclusively lesbian in her later years.

wasn't she known as the "poor man's" lauren bacall?

like joan collins was the "poor man's" elizabeth taylor

like jayne mansfield was the "poor man's" marilyn monroe...

so did lizabeth scott thus get lauren's leftovers, refusals, hand me down movie roles then?

like lauren, i always thought lizabeth was a "handsome" woman not necessarily feminine beautiful...

Scotty never refers to Stanwyck as phony anywhere in this interview.

Instead she recounts a very nice story of BS being very kind to her - giving her a hug and telling her what a pleasure it was to see her -one evening at Chasen's after they hadn't seen each other since the one scene they had in Martha Ivers.

r55 right, Lizabeth Scott, a closeted lesbian, was going to label Barbara Stanwyck a phony for being a closeted lesbian.

Only on DL.

DL LA Real Estate agents, has the house gone on the market yet?

Here's a Trulia link to the house. Doesn't appear to be on the market yet.

Watch it go to a Catholic charity.

I remember her in Martha Ivers as being rather mealy-mouthed with a bit of a lisp. Babs wiped the screen with her. And probably lifted her leg to piss on her no-talent ass. LIZabeth SCOTT. GOODBYE MY DEAR AND GOODLUCK!!!

Listened to all the clips again. You were right, R53, the stories were there. She didn't outright call Barbara Stanwyck a phony, but she did imply it. However as R57 says she is very complimentary of her skills as an actress later in the interview.

Loved the bit about Joan sending her a note.

Having lived in Hollywood in the 1980s as a film actor I remember meeting Lizabeth Scott once and she was very, very nice. Her "look" hadn't changed, she still wore her hair long (somewhat like Bacall or Veronica Lake from the 1940s). Her voice was sooooooooooooooo low and deep! Very sweet and really quite modest.

I do know lesbian or not she did have to sleep with Hal Wallis, her boss and producer non-stop! And I am NOT taking once or twice or three times to land a film contract BUT all the time for the duration - we are talking about having to sleep with him ready or not, when he snapped his fingers for about 7 years. If she didn't, then she was out of work, kicked to the side, quickly replaced by a million others young hopefuls. Quite often behind a big movie star is a bigger producer or agent and it they who actually "pull the strings".

The Elvis film was at the end of her film contract. Once Confidential Magazine, reported that she was a lesbian; most people feel her film work stopped but Scott appeared to have slowed down before this. She did sing in nightclubs and had a record produced, she continued to appear on television and retained an agent but her work as an actress slowed down.

She was never broke. Scott remained a single woman and purchased a home, which I thought was located in the Hollywood Hills and drove a sport car. She did not have servants or a maid. In her later years she never married (but appeared to have dated a lot of men - she may have never actually been a lesbian....Confidential Magazine reported she had a "black book" and went to a reported "Lesbian Bar" - as far as Scott was concerned "she wasn't" not that there isn't anything wrong with it) so no divorces and she kept her money invested. So she lived well on what she had made. Keeping in mind that in the late 1940s and 1950s she was a major star making good money.

Interesting actress with interesting films - RIP Lizabeth Scott!

So young.

[quote]Quite often behind a big movie star is a bigger producer or agent and it they who actually "pull the strings".

Tell me about it.

I'd love to see the interior of that house. Its got to have the Sunset Blvd vibe.

How is Capucine pronounced? Cap-ooh-seen? Cap-ooh-cheen?

That's so sad. I just learned the news, guess from where...(Yes,Datalounge.)

What's going on? Those golden people are getting fewer and fewer and I'm scared for those who are alive and that old. We need them. They are a comfort to us. They have the power of another time. Don't you die on us!

Interesting that Lizabeth Scott and Capucine shared the same Hollywood agent - Charles Feldman. Whereas Capucine slept with Charles Feldman, Lizabeth Scott slept with Hal Wallis case in point from a previous writer: clearly BOTH MEN "pulled the strings".

Lizabeth Scott made a film with Elvis, Capucine made a film with Fabian (both were teen stars).

Both were rumored to be lesbians or at the very least bi-sexual and BOTH made films with Barbara Stanywick (need I say.....).

Both reportedly suffered from depression - Lizabeth Scott stopped working at one point whereas Capucine committed suicide from her eighth-floor apartment in Lausanne, Switzerland, where she had lived for 28 years....sad.

RIP Lizabeth Scott RIP Capucine

Charles Feldman brought Lizabeth Scott to Hollywood after seeing her in New York.

He did the same with Capucine.

He was married to Jean Howard who left him for a woman and moved back to New York to be with her.

Charlie loved his lesbians.

Still sad she is gone...

r67, In Italian, cah-poo-CHEE-nay. In English, ca-poo-SHEEN.

In remembrance.

so is she #3 or was she not big enough a star to round out the celeb 3 death theory.

Some asked what movie she was in with Raymond Burr--Pitfall. Very good.

Always thought she had screen presence...I Am sure there is a story there but she was a private person so we will most likely never know what the true story is. RIP Ms Scott

Thank you Lizabeth for stepping up❤️.

God I absolutely love everything about her house.

She made an album. Surprisingly it's fantastic. In an odd sort of way.

I hadn't heard anything about Lizabeth Scott for years and had no idea if she was dead or alive, and nor did I know that she was apparently a lesbian.

She was seen as a knock-off of Lauren Bacall and never really graduated to an A List movie star. But she made some interesting movies in her time.

She had a pretty good run. I think she deserved a bit better than what she had. When she was on screen you couldn't take your eyes off her. Just the turn of the cards I guess.

While I'm at it, I wish TCM would stop pushing "Kirk And Anne: Letters Of Love, Laughter, and a Lifetime in Hollywood ". Knowing what we do, it's a pathetic attempt at whitewashing. He's never been revered by his his fellows.

There's a small memorial to her in Downtown Scranton. Her childhood home still stands.

"Oh, it's a blue, sick world, Rip. "

Loved her toned down look too.

I'll always love [R68]'s sincere and heart wrenching post/plea for the movers and shakers of Hollywood's Golden Age!😢

R73 You bumped a two-year-old thread for THAT?

It seems no one noticed it was 2 years old, R87.

Someone on Lizabeth's Wiki page is trying so hard to make her straight...

R38, those comments are gone now...I wonder why....

Would like to hear Liz's take on withdrawing from The Big Steal. Eddie Muller says she did so after Mitchum's arrest, fearful of the association.

Her bio on Wikipedia was clearly writttn by a fan. She was the It Girl but is forgotten now. Her unapologetic lesbianism the reason?

The Cara Delevigne of her day!

Not Eddie Muller, but Richard C. Jewell.