Bella Donna by Stevie Nicks

Just gonna state it here before the incessant Brits begin to storm the thread:

Nicks remains more talented, a better performer and more loved than that dreadful, brooding, depressed sad-sack Christine McVie.

I loved this album.

The nursing home has wifi again!!

Love Stevie and I know this album is hailed as genius, but I didn't care for it besides the singles released, and even those I didn't think were her best. I liked The Wild Heart much more. The title track should've been a single instead of Nightbird.

I never cared for The Wild Heart much. It's Bella Donna warmed-over, and half the album is garbage. Although I love that Stevie wrote a song about her vagina for it.

"Bella Donna" is her best solo LP.

ooo, baby, ooo, I said ooo

R1, why are you such a twit? Do you not understand that the reason Fleetwood Mac is one of the greatest rock bands of all times is not just because of one individual lead singer, but because of the variety of talent involved? No other rock band in the world will ever match the talent of Stevie's character at the mic, Lindsay's guitar skills and Christine's soul at the keyboards.

To say one is better than the other when FM is truly a sum of the whole is ridiculous.

Personally, I can't wait to go see them in concert again with Christine back.

ROFL @ r3!!!!

I'm definitely going to listen to Outside the Rain today...had no idea it was related to Dreams.

The Rumors album is being discovered by hipsters now and the mood fits the bearded bohemia moment the kids are having..

As a teen I listened to Bella Donna over and over and over.

Rumours is great, but overrated at this point. Tusk is far more interesting. And Bella Donna, of course.

"Gypsy" was originally recorded for inclusion on BD, but ultimately held over for Fleetwood Mac's Mirage album the following year. Thankfully so, because what Lindsey did with that song was genius.

I wonder if the OP gets a little pulse in the pants when she types "seminal" because she doesn't really know what it means and assumes it has something to do with mancreme.

Mirage (Can't Go Back, Empire State, Eyes of the World, Gypsy, Hold Me) and Tango in the Night (Big Love, Seven Wonders, Caroline, Welcome to the Room…Sara, Little Lies, Everywhere) are very underrated albums

Drowning....in the sea of love....

Where everyone...would love to drown...

Was Stevie in love with a younger man when she wrote Bella Donna? "Stop Dragging my heart" and "Edge of Seventeen" both address younger men.

The FM version of Think About It is one of my all-time favorite songs. The solo version is dreck.

And r11, Rumours isn't overrated. It's just overplayed. Tusk is really fantastic as well.

My daughter's cunt bones are healing VERY NICELY!

Thanks for asking ASSHOLES!!!

Anyway, I love the Bella Donna album and the bitchpig who sang these enchanting songs, until her voice turned into a frog goat.

Well excuse me, my daughter just rang her bell, and I have to go lift her off the bed to wheel her down to the can to take a shit.

R15, I've never been a huge fan of Stevie Nicks other than just liking her a lot, but I LOVE that line for some reason. It's just very pretty and a little deep and of course, so true.

Leather and Lace is such a terrible song.

Amen 20, and my daughter can't even wear lace panties anymore because of the metal rod that comes out of her coochie!

We skip that one!

Is Sharon Celani a lesbian?

I love Stevie. Have seen her several times in concert - drugged up AND not drugged up - and she's a great performer.

Love Bella Donna - Edge of Seventeen is one of my favorite songs.

I also loved her "Sisters of the Moon" from Tusk

Has Stevie had any SISTERS UP HER MOON?

Like right up in there?

Just one with the straw

I just wished it would have had Gold and Braid on it. Love this song!

The first time I had sex, I stood outside my boyfriends apartment after leaving and did the high kicks like Stevie does starting at 2:53!

R26, Please tell me you are a woman!

If not I am speechless.

I remember when the first Fleetwood Mac album (after Nicks and Buckingham joined the group) came out in the 70's.

Rhiannon was a big hit off that album and and all the rocks snobs went on about McVie being the better talent and singer and all the hub-bub around Nicks being because she was blonde and pretty.

Yeah, right. The fact is Nicks' talent was under-rated exactly because she was blonde and pretty.

By the way, I suspect Nicks - who I'm sure is at least bi - was undergoing a lesbo phase after the breakup with LB and during the making of Tusk - she was in full granola/Wikkan lesbian mode during that album.

Nicks was always surrounded by an entourage of female groupies and I'm sure she hooked up with some of them.

Stevie's reputation as a cockhound rivals that of Joni Mitchell and Linda Ronstadt; she's not bi and I doubt she's ever even dipped her toe in the ladypond. She was banging so many guys in the '70s and '80s, she hardly had time, if for no other reason.

After her break-up with Lindsey, Stevie was too busy banging, first Don Henley (and getting knocked up by him), and then Mick Fleetwood, to be bothered with pussy.

She also wrote the song "Secret Love" around that time (which wasn't released until 2011 on In Your Dreams), which she says was about a married man she was boffing, though she claims she doesn't remember who it was (which is total horseshit, of course).

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"Gold and Braid" is another song that was recorded for Bella Donna but never used. She performed it on the White Winged Dove Tour in '81, and a live version was included on her Enchanted box set in 1998.

What difference does it make how many guys she fucked? I'm sure no more than Debbie Harry did, and Harry has (only recently) admitted to messing around with chicks.

That doesn't make them lesbians, just typical "sexually fluid" females that enjoy sex and have a lot of access to nookie of both genders.

Actually Debbie was faithful to Chris Stein R33. Hit on constantly by guys, turned them all down. May have been getting some kitty on the side, of course.

Debbie Harry discussed her sexual experience with women years ago. She was always a little "alternative," while Stevie led a very conventional, upper middle class like until she was about 20 years old.

I am stronger than you know.

Stevie's great but - what's happening with that young lady with the broken cunt bones?

"Leather and Lace is such a terrible song."

I agree. I think it sucks. The lyrics are terrible. It really is a mediocre song.

I think Stevie Nicks has probably done some muff-diving in her time. For a long time she was REALLY fucked up on cocaine, and other things as well. Druggies like that will fuck anything, male or female. And like someone mentioned she kept an entourage of "close" female friends hanging around. Looking at pictures of them it's obvious that their hair and clothes and makeup mimic hers. I imagine that when she fucked them it was probably like fucking herself, and I'm sure THAT was a big turn-on for her. She's in love with herself.

In "Kicking and Dreaming" ,the memoir by Ann and Nancy Wilson, they mention being tight with Stevie Nicks and her "girlfriends" for a while. They were at her house and they noticed that there were pictures of her everywhere; they said it was like "a shrine to Stevie." They describe a girly scene where they're all trying on clothes from Stevie's closet. It sounded like a scenario from a lesbian porn movie. Eventually the friendship withered because Ann and Nancy couldn't keep up with Stevie, drug-wise. They said she'd take drugs to get high and in order to sleep she took other drugs and in order to get her energy back she'd take other drugs. It was a never ending cycle and Ann and Nancy said they couldn't keep up with it, they had to take time out from drugs to "sleep." Apparently, when it came to drugs Stevie Nicks was very hard-core.

R21 COCCYX!

R30, the "secret love" was renowned session drummer Russ Kunkel, husband of the late Nicolette Larsen.

"If Stevie really were bi, I think she would've talked about it by now."

I don't think so. I think she'd probably be afraid it might turn off some of her fans if she came out as bi. It took a very, very long time for her to say anything about her bizarre marriage to her best friend's widower. I don't think she's ever publicly said anything about aborting Don Henley's baby. No doubt she has a lot of skeletons in her closet that she doesn't want anyone to know about.

She did say something publicly about the abortion. It wasn't a statement or anything, it came up in an interview and she said she was mad he chose to go public with it, but that she didn't regret it. I think it's refreshing to hear a woman say she chose her art and career over motherhood.

Stevie never would've mentioned the abortion, but Don Henley spilled the beans in an interview with Vanity Fair. She was pissed at him for a while, but they have since made up.

If she were bi she definitely would have fessed up by now. Having all those woman draping themselves on and around her onstage and in photos is too obvious. If she were bi and wanted to be discreet she missed the boat. It's just an image.

"If she were bi she definitely would have fessed up by now."

I seriously doubt that. I think she wants to keep her lesbians inclinations under wraps. It's not hard for her to do that. Her fans are so clueless and worshipful that the fact that she has really, um, CLOSE relationships with females done up to look like her totally escapes them. Their "crystal vision" of Stevie is of a woman who has had plenty of fabulous MALE lovers; the fact that she also has a great deal of "fondness" for females goes right over their heads.

I prefer Buckingham/Nicks, with their absolutely stellar "Frozen Love" and "Long Distance Winner" to anything Stevie ever did as a solo artist.

"Sunflowers and your face fascinate me..."

When I was younger I used to love Stevie and FM, bought every album and traveled to see them when they were performing nearby. Then Mick Fleetwood's book came out and I was totally turned off. I had been getting tired of Stevie's bleating but the revelations in the book were the nail in the coffin.

Liza and Judy took over at that point - fanatically a Judy-phile for a few years but then graduated to appreciating Liza, as much for her survival skills as her work.

I love only the tallest trees.

I bring the water down to you

R43

What did Don H. say about Stevie in the article ? What was his thoughts on the abortion ?

You're fast. you're the winner.

DataLounge tries hard to destroy Stevie Nicks for me.

I know who holds the eternal power and magic.

I love McVie for writing "Songbird," though she has never been as compelling a performer as Nicks

Long distance winner

I think Stevie Nicks destroyed her own mystery and talent long ago, R52.

This is another great thread to read while pooping.

I still can't believe Stevie kicked that girl in the cunt bone.

I agree with R1 by a MILE.

However, I despise Stevie now. Truly. After this debacle with Lindsey, by most accounts she is 95% responsible for-

However, from 1979-83 she had one of the greatest voices in Rock-

Christine McVie CANNOT EVEN SING anymore, and she looks like a wizened crone on stage- And she REALLY betrayed Lindsey in a very different way, considering that they toured last summer and recorded an album together.

They are all tainted as far as I am concerned.

Bella Donna- Great album. Oddly enough I love The Wild Heart just as much..

And the song Bella Donna is one of Stevie's most underrated, as is Think About It.

R57- Great point, we all should have known what a BITCH Stevie was after she kicked that gal in her cunt bone when all she wanted was an autograph-

Didn't she say something like "Stevie your music gives us such hope"

And Stevie said something like "FUCK YOU BITCH! And kicked her in her V-bone, while her own mother watched in horror!!!

When the album came out I was so disappointed. Without Fleetwood Mac and particularly Lindsey Buckingham, her songs were missing the magic.

R60 Bullshit. This album is brilliant without Lindsey. Jimmy Iovine did a brilliant job. Lindsey could never have accomplished the greatness that is Edge of Seventeen

[quote]What did Don H. say about Stevie in the article ? What was his thoughts on the abortion ?

Don spilled the beans in an Esquire interview in the mid-90s, when he was likely high and still using and couldn't keep his mouth shut. He told the interviewer that he knew that 'Sara' was written about the child he and Stevie had conceived, that she had aborted and then wrote the song for. "When you build your house, please call me" was about a home he was building at the time up on Mulholland.

What was surprising is that he let those quotes pass and be printed. He was a pretty big star then and he and his pr likely had editorial approval of what ended up published. He later apologized publicly for the comments.

R59 They forgave her, even after that kick in the vagina bone.

Stevie probably blames the Klonopin.

Few bands are as over-feted as the Mac.