If I had a dollar for every "Corbyn Is/Isn't Bernie" article that will come out this weekend

And here's Biden weighing in....

Though I hold [italic] The Atlantic[/italic] in high regard, Franklin Foer's words bother me in two regards. I find it highly offensive he would refer to Corbyn as Bernie's "British Cousin", especially since Bernie is a child of Holocaust survivors. No one ought to compare any Jew as a "Cousin" to Corbyn. I do not understand him saying Bernie is against a consensus regarding West Bank settlements... a disingenuous attempt to paint Bernie as Anti-Israel. Bernie may be quite outspoken on the illegal settlements, yet that doesn't quite measure up to the sum of Corbyn's beliefs and sentiments toward Jews, or Israel.

The settlements violate International law, and the UN doesn't support them, and strongly urges Israel to cease and desist. Bernie rightly doesn't support them, and has much support in the matter, including from other Jews. Simply because Pompeo and the entire Trump administration acknowledged these settlements, does NOT make for an international consensus in favour of them.

This is a complete rubbish article.

[quote] Bernie rightly doesn't support them, and has much support in the matter, including from other Jews.

Including most all of the center-left parties in Israel.

One of the odder bits about the discourse around Israel is that so many (especially on the left) take the position that the entire nation of Israel and all its politicians are in cahoots with Netanyahu--it would be as if people assumed that say [italic] America [/italic] was mocking Greta Thunberg on Twitter and not the person we unfortunately have in the White House and/or that the entire country was right there with him.

One issue is that the Right in Israel - as in the U.S. - are usually the loudest voices, so people here in the U.S. get a skewed vision of the total Israeli population's views. Plus, the Right here is so enamored of Netanyahu, while the left is too enamored of the Palestinians who, while they have legitimate major grievances against the Israeli government, are not exactly Snow White either based on some of their actions.

It would be great if a two-state solution was truly feasible, but there are too many extremists on both sides opposed to any kind of compromise to make that work over the longer term. They really just want to destroy the other completely. Honestly, I sometimes feel if the Israeli Right and Hamas killed each other off and let the saner heads prevail, it would be a good thing.

Going back to the original topic, the idea that there is some correlation between the British election and ours in 2020 is bonkers, or just wishful thinking on the part of some media pundits who have an unending taste for melodrama. Johnson won due to a consistent, simple "Get Brexit done" message, while Corbyn was the worst possible Labour candidate.

R3 & R4 Yes, yes, and yes!

Corbyn was also [BOLD] Much Too Old [/BOLD]. The UK hasn't elected a Prime Minister aged over 60 in their first term since Winston Churchill almost 70 years ago.

BERNIE WOULD HAVE BEATEN TRUMP IN 2016

How many spoiled elections do the Democrats have to cause until they realize they NEED THEIR PROGRESSIVE BASE BACK?

Gore wasn't enough? Hillary wasn't enough? You want to prop up another Washington establishment failure like Joe Biden and get another 4 years of Trump, because you couldn't even hold your political base? The Green Party votes in 2016 decided the election, and Democrats still won't listen and are passing the blame?

AMERICANS HAVE REJECTED IRAQ WARMONGERING FAILURES OF THE WASHINGTON ESTABLISHMENT SINCE 2008 -- Biden sucks and he'll screw the pooch just like Hillary McCain did.

From Anita Hill to Iraq, Biden has been a part of the Douche-stablishment that ruined this country. CHANGE.

R7, please stop posting that lie. Bernie would not have beaten Trump.

Right, R8. And he wouldn't beat Trump in 2020 either, regardless of what his "Bros" would like to think.

R9, imagine all those people in the heartland who are repulsed by the very thought of "socialism" voting for Bernie. It's not happening.